Dear ones, I came right home and transcribed as much of this interview as I could. I'll share bits and pieces as I can: “We live in a world where we are being overwhelmed by the spiritual malformation of a people who place materialism as the highest good and who are addicted and possessed by an insatiable hunger for materialism and power that has not been able to be satisfied by invasions, by stealing land, by genocide by cultural appropriation by killing the earth and all of the natural resources in the earth.” Ruby Sales (Interview I heard on a radio program with Dr. Wilmer Leon)